[Dysphagia] Swalowing workshop

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I agree that Pam explained it well.  Thanks for the clear head.
 
I think it's a positive, rather than a negative that in speech-language pathology, like other fields (presumably, clinical neuroscience included) continuing education is encouraged.  Not only are all of our fields continuously changing (also a positive), but many of us have been practicing for many years.  For example, those of us who graduated 25 years ago know that dysphagia was not a focus (back in the stone ages).  While we had extensive background in oral and laryngeal anatomy and physiology in undergrad and grad school, many of us have learned about dysphagia assessment and treatment in seminars, self-study, and continuing education.  I'd guess that even Jeri Logemann didn't have a class in dysphagia in college , but instead researched and studied after that.  And where would be if she hadn't?
 
Thanks all,
Leslie
 
 



> To: bsonies at comcast.net; eripley at yahoo.com; tfix1 at cfl.rr.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 07:17:49 -0500> From: lobsterpam at aol.com> CC: dysphagia at b9.com> Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Swalowing workshop> > Attempting to shelve the sarcasm, here are a few thoughts....> > 1. Potential employers expect the SLP to have the appropriate knowledge, skills and expertise when they hire them to work with a given population.> 2. SLPs are ethically bound not to practice in areas where they are not adequately trained.> 3. It would be better for the SLP to obtain training in an area where they feel they need it, whether as a refresher or to make up a deficiency, than to practice in an area where they are NOT adequately trained.> 4. Practice patterns vary greatly among SLPs, and are often not evidence based. > 5. There is evidence that SLPs, as a group, are not as well versed in the respiratory and infectious disease literature as we should be, if we are going to participate in management of conditions thereof. I believe we're getting better, though.> 6. A lot of time is spent convincing graduate students that no matter how much they have learned, they cannot know everything when they finish their degree.> 7. Continuing education is required for maintenance of certification and, in most states, for licensure.> > All that said, I'm sure we are all aware that ASHA has no requirement that CEU activities be evidence based. The language included with every activity states that the content has not been endorsed. "ASHA CE Provider approval does not imply endorsement of course content, specific products, or clinical procedures." Attending CEU activities does not absolve the clinician from personal responsibility to thoughtfully and carefully evaluate the evidence behind the content and/or clinical approaches. (In other words, we shouldn't adopt a practice pattern just because someone, somewhere said it sounded like a good idea and that it seemed to work for someone they worked with somewhere.)> > If you've never read the ASHA Knowledge and Skills document with regard to swallowing/swallowing disorders, you really should do so. Compare it to the KASA (Knowledge and Skills Assessment) that students complete, and you'll see gigantic differences. Differences the size of our Pennsylvania potholes.> > Pam Smith, Ph.D.> Bloomsburg University> Bloomsburg, PA > -----Original Message-----> From: bsonies at comcast.net> To: eripley at yahoo.com; tfix1 at cfl.rr.com> Cc: dysphagia at b9.com> Sent: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:50 PM> Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Swalowing workshop> > I guess then that physicians and dentists and psychologists are all so> highly trained once they get their degree that there is no need for them to> get any continuing education either. Maybe they never forget anything they> have learned and are totally up to standards at every moment during their> professional lives. Why single out the SLP?> > > On 3/4/07 9:41 PM, "Irene Campbell-Taylor" <eripley at yahoo.com> wrote:> > > Perhaps you would be so kind as to share what it is you believe me to be> > missing. My understanding is that these workshops are attended by practicing> > SLPs and I fail to see why that should be necessary if they are already> > adequately trained and educated as ASHA's position papers indicate they should> > be. It seems like a very basic course to me as well as missing some important> > material so that I should be grateful for your explanation.> > > > "Todd R. Fix" <tfix1 at cfl.rr.com> wrote: Yes Irene. You are missing something.> > If you yourself were an SLP, you'd> > have answered your own question.> > > > > > Todd R. Fix MA CCC/SLP> > 297 Woodgreen Lane> > Winter Springs, FL 32708> > > > (407) 312-0213> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: dysphagia-bounces at b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces at b9.com] On Behalf> > Of Irene Campbell-Taylor> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:03 AM> > To: dysphagia at b9.com> > Subject: [Dysphagia] Swalowing workshop> > > > Someone recently poste a notice about a swallowing workshop as follows:> > > > > > > > This workshop is designed to provide:> > > > --knowledge and hands on experience with radiographic and clinical> > > > techniques for evaluation of swallowing problems in a variety of patients> > > > (including neurological and cancer patients)> > > > --strategies for knowing when and how to implement interventions during> > > > radiographic studies and in therapy> > > > --Guidelines for discontinuing alternate feeding techniques (gastrostomy and> > > > > > nasogastric)> > > > --observation and participation in evaluation of treatment of patients.> > Extensive review of video-taped x-ray swallowstudies will be provided.> > > > I must be missing something but, aren't these the very things that> > practicing SLPs are supposed to already know - according to the ASHA> > position papers?> > > > > > Dr I Campbell-Taylor> > Clinical Neuroscientist> > Exclusive Distributor:> > www.interactivetherapy.com> > _______________________________________________> > Dysphagia mail list: Normal and disordered swallowing information> > Dysphagia at b9.com Manage subscription:> > http://lists.b9.com/mailman/listinfo/dysphagia> > Visit the new Dysphagia Web Forum: http://dysphagia.com/forum> > > > > > > > > > > > Dr I Campbell-Taylor> > Clinical Neuroscientist> > Exclusive Distributor:> > www.interactivetherapy.com> > _______________________________________________> > Dysphagia mail list: Normal and disordered swallowing information> > Dysphagia at b9.com> > Manage subscription: http://lists.b9.com/mailman/listinfo/dysphagia> > Visit the new Dysphagia Web Forum: http://dysphagia.com/forum> > > _______________________________________________> Dysphagia mail list: Normal and disordered swallowing information> Dysphagia at b9.com> Manage subscription: http://lists.b9.com/mailman/listinfo/dysphagia> Visit the new Dysphagia Web Forum: http://dysphagia.com/forum> > ________________________________________________________________________> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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