[Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues

[GuptaJ at SESAHS.NSW.GOV.AU (Jai Gupta)]

Hi Phyllis,
To add to this debate and to reduce frustration of repeating ourselves over and over again or reading same argument over and over again I think it would be great if the past and future correspondences be arranged by specific topic or questions? and not by date alone or misleading subject titles...... this will make it easy for those who have newly joint to review what was already discussed in the past...... Thus when a question in raised and if it has been discussed in past there should be an automatic attachment or link of previous discussion in the email or discussion. I am aware it is time consuming and am not sure how we could get around it .... I will give it a thought if my brain can come up with the solution......but I am sure there has to be a way how we can achieve this and am sure amongst us there must be some computer genius who can come with the solution ..any ideas
Jai Gupta. 





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From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com]On
Behalf Of Phyllis M. Palmer
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2005 1:23 AM
To: Suzanne Morris
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Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues


Thank you Suzanne for your kind and thoguhtful comments.

In hopes that we can continue to focus on sharing and learning
information...

Respectfully,
Phyllis

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Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D.       Speech Language Pathologist
University Of New Mexico

                   www.dysphagia.com
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On Wed, 18 May 2005, Suzanne Morris wrote:

> One of the things I've learned, over time, in my teaching and exchanges with
> other therapists is that a given group consists of people with many different
> backgrounds.  On a listserv people join a group, gain what they need and
> leave.  And new people join.  A workshop consists of therapists who have very
> little feeding/dysphagia experience, therapists who have had extensive
> experience with approaches that I question, and therapists who are
> experienced and on the same wave length I am.  I know that simply by
> participating on a list or in a workshop, each participant is open to
> learning and growing in their own way.
>
> Until there is a consistency in teaching at universities and in continuing
> education, all of the research-based information that would influence our
> therapy isn't going to be reflected in the therapy and questions of every
> therapist.   After years of frustration, I've arrived at a wonderful sense of
> peace that this is just reality.  It isn't just the situation in our field,
> but in every field of human endeavor.   Being at peace with the "IS" doesn't
> mean that I am not a strong advocate for what I would like for people to
> know.  It doesn't mean that I don't become frustrated at times.  I just
> recognize that questions that I've heard before are either from new
> participants on a list or in a course, or are from people who are now ready
> to process the information that they may have heard at a time when they
> weren't ready to process it.   If information is important, it bears
> repeating.  I also, however, feel that it is really important for lists or
> specific members of lists to write information or position papers that can be
> posted on a website.  I've done this in the "Feed Your Mind" section of my
> New Visions website (www.new-vis.com)  for many of the issues in pediatric
> dysphagia that I feel are important.
>
> Irene, it would be so wonderful if you would consider adding this type of a
> section to your own website.  You are such a marvelous resource person who
> challenges each of us to understand our assessment and treatment choices in
> light of research evidence.  You will know what papers to write and add from
> the specific questions you encounter on this list.   Although this takes some
> time initially, it is a great time and energy saver because you can simply
> refer people to the URL that addresses the topic area or question that they
> are asking.   For me this also defuses my own frustration at feeling I need
> to repeat and repeat the same informational content.  I can then approach the
> questions as opportunities to share a different perspective with others who
> are ready to learn more.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
> Suzanne Evans Morris, Ph.D.
> New Visions
> 1124 Roberts Mountain Rd.
> Faber, VA 22938
> (434) 361-2285 ext. 5
> www.new-vis.com
>
>
> On May 18, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Irene Campbell-Taylor wrote:
>
>>
>> Genefer Behamdouni <BEHAMG@stjoe.on.ca> wrote:
>> You know if you won't stand for people being rude to you, I'm not sure
>> why you feel the need to be so rude to others. The information is
>> interesting, but you won't solve anything by putting people down first.
>>
>> Grow up.
>>
>> *** One of the reasons that I frequently stay away from this list - over
>> the ten years in which I have been a contributor - is responses like this.
>> My comment was a repeat of what Barbara Sonies said in her talk at ASHA in
>> Chicago - outdated, incorrect information etc.  Should she "Grow up" as
>> well? And Michael Crary? Do the published facts mean nothing? And what,
>> exactly, was rude? I am on record as indicating that every insulting
>> message I receive on this list - and over the years there have been
>> hundreds- will be posted to the membership. If one doesn't have the courage
>> to say something publicly, please keep quiet and know that these
>> communications have no effect on me whatsoever.
>>
>>>>> Irene Campbell-Taylor 05/18 9:44 AM >>>
>> Okay, I can't stand it any longer. The wealth of outdated, inaccurate
>> and misperceived information that still seems to be prevalent is
>> frightening. For those of you who feel that you don't have time to read
>> the relevant material and, by implication, feel that you don't need the
>> information, stop here.
>> Tongue retraction. This is still one of my "Where did you ever get that
>> idea? mysteries. Many years ago, David Curtis proved that the "open
>> swallow" is far more common than contact with the PPW. See below.
>> The Masako: If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Michael Crary
>> - also below.And, in the original article find the following:
>>
>> However, the use of the maneuver per se, which inhibits posterior
>> retraction of the base of tongue (BOT), resulted in increasing the
>> pharyngeal (specifically vallecular) residue after the swallow.
>
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