[Dysphagia] Re: how much water?

[GuptaJ at SESAHS.NSW.GOV.AU (Jai Gupta)]

Hi, I am aware of that literature referred to, so am I aware of literature on hydration. Fundamental question is how much one should drink and in reality what is happening? I am not aware if this simple research question? .... I am just illustrating what is happening in real world ...these are interview and observation from real world .... and I disagree...any of them were diagnosed as dehydrated ...they live like that of years ...another interesting case ..I have met a lady who was 92 yrs and never had water as far as her memory could go ..she hated the taste of water ....loved light tea (I know Tea is DIURETIC :-), she is still living and dehydration has never been an issue with her.... it does not support the research something is wrong some were?
About diagnosis ...This will help those who seek simple solution to Asp Pneu... ..as SLP we have to aware of complexities..... and this info helps me esp with stroke clients .. Identification of Aspiration Pneumonia* Diagnosis based on three or more of the following variables

?        Fever (> 38? C)

?        Productive cough with purulent sputum

?        Abnormal respiratory examination (tachypnoea > 22 breaths/min, tachycardia, inspiratory crackles, bronchial breathing)

?        Abnormal chest radiograph

?        Arterial hypoxaemia (PO2<9.3 kPa)

?        Isolation of a relevant pathogen (positive Gram stain or culture)

*Ref: Mann G, Dip PG, Hankey GJ, et al. Swallowing function after stroke. Stroke 1999;30:744-8


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-----Original Message-----
From: Irene Campbell-Taylor [mailto:eripley@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:56 AM
To: Jai Gupta; Dysphagia@b9.com
Subject: RE: [Dysphagia] Re: how much water?




Jai Gupta <GuptaJ@SESAHS.NSW.GOV.AU> wrote:


Hi all, I am really worried when people make a generalist comment that "each patient receives his or her requisite amount of water every day"..

*** That was the OPPOSITE of a general comment - please note "his or her requisite amount" - individualized and we DO have methods of determining how mucha given individual needs. Please read the medical, nursiing and physiological literature on hydration.

..we don't have evidence do we? I have come across so many elderly citizens who do not drink a sip of water but live on tea or cordial some on bear .

*** And are chronically dehydrated as all of the above are DIURETIC.

....but these are rare cases ..

*** These are COMMON cases .

and there are obvious signs of asp pneu

*** Aspiration pneumonia is one of the most difficult diagnoses to make in a living person.Please note the following from, arguably, the world's expert on aspiration pneumonia and aspiration pneumonitis:





Aspiration pneumonia






John G Bartlett, MD
Co-Editor-in-Chief - Infectious Diseases
Professor of Medicine
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine

INTRODUCTION - Aspiration is a common event even in healthy individuals and usually resolves without detectable sequelae. Markers placed in the stomach can often be detected in the lungs of healthy persons using scintigraphic methods.

[Berson, W, Adiani, J. "Silent" regurgitation and aspiration of gastric contents during anesthesia. Anesthesiology 1954; 15:644.]

Aspiration pneumonia refers to the pulmonary consequences resulting from the abnormal entry of fluid, particulate exogenous substances, or endogenous secretions into the lower airways. There are usually two requirements to produce aspiration pneumonia:

*	Compromise in the usual defenses that protect the lower airways including glottic closure, cough reflex, and other clearing mechanisms

*	An inoculum deleterious to the lower airways by a direct toxic effect, stimulation of an inflammatory process from a large enough bacterial inoculum, or obstruction due to a sufficient volume of material or particulate matter

Most pneumonia arises following the "aspiration" of microorganisms from the oral cavity or nasopharynx. The term aspiration pneumonia should be reserved for pneumonitis resulting from the altered clearance defenses noted above. The pathogens which commonly produce pneumonia, such as Streptococcus pneumoniae, Haemophilus influenzae, Gram negative bacilli, and Staphylococcus aureus, are relatively virulent bacteria so that only a small inoculum is required and the aspiration is usually subtle.

 A true aspiration pneumonia, by convention, usually refers to an infection caused by less virulent bacteria, primarily anaerobes, which are common constituents of the normal flora in a susceptible host prone to aspiration.

The predisposing conditions, clinical syndromes, diagnosis, and treatment of aspiration pneumonia will be reviewed here. Community-acquired pneumonia, nosocomial pneumonia, pneumonia due to specific pathogens, empyema, and lung abscess are discussed separately. (See related topic reviews).

PREDISPOSING CONDITIONS - Conditions that predispose to aspiration pneumonia include:

*	Reduced consciousness, resulting in a compromise of the cough reflex and glottic closure

*	Dysphagia from neurologic deficits

*	Disorders of the upper gastrointestinal tract including esophageal disease, surgery involving the upper airways or esophagus, and gastric reflux

*	Mechanical disruption of the glottic closure or cardiac sphincter due to tracheostomy, endotracheal intubation, bronchoscopy, upper endoscopy, and nasogastric feeding

*	Pharyngeal anesthesia, and miscellaneous conditions such as protracted vomiting, large volume tube feedings, feeding gastrostomy, and the recumbent position

These conditions all share properties of frequent or large volume aspiration which increase the probability of developing aspiration pneumonitis . A number of interventions (eg, positioning, dietary changes, drugs, oral hygiene, tube feeding) have been proposed to prevent aspiration, especially in elderly patients. However, a systematic review of such measures found insufficient data to assess effectiveness

Interventions to prevent aspiration pneumonia in older adults: a systematic review.
Loeb MB; Becker M; Eady A; Walker-Dilks C

 J Am Geriatr Soc 2003 Jul;51(7):1018-22.

A systematic review was conducted to assess the effectiveness of the following interventions for prevention of aspiration pneumonia (AP) in older adults: compensatory strategy/positioning changes, dietary interventions, pharmacologic therapies, oral hygiene, and tube feeding. Data sources included a key word search of the MEDLINE, EMBASE, Cochrane Library, CINAHL, and HealthSTAR databases and hand searches of six journals. Reference lists of relevant primary and review articles were searched. Studies included were randomized, controlled trials (RCTs) enrolling adults aged 65 and older at risk of and assessed for AP. Two investigators extracted data on population, intervention, outcomes, and methodological quality. Of the 17 identified RCTs, eight met the selection criteria, two addressed dietary management or compensatory swallowing, two assessed pharmacological therapies, one assessed oral hygiene, and three assessed tube feeding. None of the eight trials reported use of blinding, and allocation concealment was unclear in five. Use of amantadine prevented pneumonia in one trial of nursing home residents. The antithrombotic agent cilostazol prevented AP in another trial but resulted in excessive bleeding. Insufficient data exist to determine the effectiveness of positioning strategies, modified diets, oral hygiene, feeding tube placement, or delivery of food in preventing AP. Considering how common the problem of AP is in older adults, larger, high-quality RCTs on the effectiveness of preventive interventions are warranted.

AD - Department of Clinical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.








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